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OK...I am about to commit suicide over my power windows. Please help me from going over the deep end. HaHa!
I have original power windows in my 61. The motors continue to stop working and I continue to keep fixing them. They have all been to a starter/alternator shop for rebuilding many times now. I am tired of spending money and even more tired of removing door panels to get at them.
They are a difficult motor to find because they are a 4 wire motor and I believe only used for three years. I have found and purchased a few on ebay over the years, only to end up with another old motor that dies. So, i am looking for leads on a supplier who can offer a NEW replacement. Anybody know who may be able to supply new motors?
If any of you are wiring Guru's that would know how to convert that 4 wire circuit to a 2 wire circuit with relays perhaps, I would love to hear from you. I have the window electrical schematic available, but for me it's like reading Chinese.
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I just tried some data mining to find you some repro or rebuilt ones that DIDN'T look like a sketchy supplier, and now I'M about to commit suicide. I'm really kind of surprised how much is NOT available for these cars considering how many of them were on the road, and how many were sold back in the day. I can find parts easier for my first generation Cougar, which is a feat in and of itself.
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I don't know if it will work, but here's a 4 wire power window motor for a '55 Thunderchicken.
Never mind. It's 6V.
Last edited by guitar74 (February 10, 2017 10:19 am)
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Here's another link that shows brand new 4 wire motors for a '61-'62 Thunderchicken.
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Thanks!
Yes, it is a struggle at times to find parts for these old cars. If it was a Mustang, Camaro, Corvette, etc...parts galore!
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Why does the rebuild fail? What is the problem? So much for a rebuild being as good as new, eh? An electric motor should be a pretty simple thing. Have you tried taking it apart yourself? Will the regulators take a new style motor and gear? Can you convert them to something else?
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The biggest issue really is the age of the motors. They are just old and everything inside is brittle. Issues after getting them rebuilt:
In one of the motors a brush split in half and fell out of the brush holder. In two of the other motors, the brush plates that are plastic and hold the brushes against the armature broke so the brushes just dangle in the motor. In one of the motors, a wire got pinched during reassembly so when the motor had to work hard and draw more amps, the wire couldn't deliver so the motor quit.
These motors have been an absolute nightmare for me. Funny thing is they all worked fine before the restoration. I had them all rebuild as a preventative measure so that I wouldn't have problems. Because of this I have learned,,," if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
To make things even more difficult, those motors are a 4 wire motor. All the newer stuff went to three wire, eventually to a two wire motor, so I can't use anything newer.
The motors mount to the regulator via the two bolts that hold the two halves of the motor cases together, so a replacement motor has to be the same dimension to mount to regulator.
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So, now that its broke, you'll have to fix it. Sometimes we call that a 'make work' proposition. You should be able to rewire the system to work with three, or two wire motors. Find a new motor that fits, then figure out how to make the wiring work. It is still winter, you still have time. 
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Here is what I am looking for. If there is a way to convert a newer two wire motor to work with my 4 wire circuit, I would sure like to hear from someone. Way more new two wire motors available.
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You'd think that somebody, somewhere has done this, but finding them will be the trick. The motor has to run in both directions, so you need the switch to control that. I'd guess the two wire motor grounds through the body, so the two wires come from the switch, bringing power, and tell it which way to turn. It would all be a custom install, from start to end. Maybe get a two wire motor and and do a mock up on the bench to get it operating correctly, then you could figure out if you can adapt the existing harness, or if you pull out the old and start over with new wiring.
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