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Hello to everybody . I am the proud owner of a 67 Galaxie 500 , 4 door hardtop with a FE 390 engine .
Got the car a couple of weeks ago from a guy who had it for about 8 months from the nephew of the original owner .
He is not mechanically inclined ( supposedly) and did not know what has been previously done to the car .
I was impressed that the engine was very clean and seemed that it had been worked, all new painted valve covers, oil pan , clean , clean engine but with some minor leaks at the back of the engine ( thought I got lucky and somebody maybe recently rebuilt it ) , it has a lot of new parts, hoses, etc.
It has a fairly new Edelbrock intake & carb ( 4 barrel) some gaskets seem pretty freshly changed .
When we tried to start it at that time it tried to fire on starting position but on ignition ON it died. I checked the carb , it got fuel so I figured it has something to do with ignition .
A new electronic ignition and key switch got it fired up , I adjusted timing at 13 TDC , plenty of growl and power in it.
Oils looked quite fresh and clean both on engine and tranny.
But then it started leaking like the Niagara Falls from the thermostat housing and after a couple of gasket exchanges I realised that it was warped like crazy .
A new housing with new gasket fixed the issue and I got on my way back home at around 1 am in the morning .
The next day I wanted to impress my lady and fired it up , this time a huge white cloud came out of the exhaust , but stopped on normal idle , it only fogged the climate again when I was shortly revving up the engine , under high throttle or on the road I could not see any smoke, though a couple of days later and around 50 miles of fun driving the engine oil light came on ( checked and re-filled the oil when I got it ) .
Sometimes , when I started it and revved it up no smoke came out but most of the time it was pretty embarrassing , plus the huge oil consumption.
Driving around you could not tell anything wrong about how the engines road performance , take off power and high rpm#s without any hesitation.
I figured maybe a valve is sticking , bought a bottle of Mystery Oil added hals of it to the engine and the other half in the gas tank.
After another 50 miles or so , a ticking sound got louder and louder coming from the passengers side valve cover , but I managed to get slowly back home without any issues .
Back home I took the covers of , all seems very clean in there ( almost new ) drain holes are clear no rod seems to be bent on an visual inspection.
Today I rented a compression test tool from O'reilly's and done the test on the cold engine and just now realizing that I did not open up the carb.
Spark plugs seem normal ( brownish towards blackish ) no gung or fouling and this is what my cylinder readings where :
no.1 - 160 psi
no.2 - 165 psi
no.3 - 150 psi
no.4 - 140 psi ( went up quite slowly )
no.5 - 165 psi
no.6 - 165 psi
no.7 - 195 psi ( went up slowly and around 60 psi it jumped up fast)
no.8 - 205 psi ( went up slowly an around 90 jumped up crazy fast )
I have to mention that I took all spark plugs on drivers side off before I performed the test and since the valve cover was off too oil spilled over right over cylinders 7 and 8 and probably turned the test into a wet test .
The passenger side went on spark plug at a time although no.3 and 4 readings are quite low .
Can it be something to do with the valves ?
What do you guys think could be wrong and what would you recommend to do or proceed with .
I really appreciate your valuable input.
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To do a proper compression test, all the spark plugs should be removed so the engine spins over freely and you get an accurate reading on each cylinder. You should let it spin over at least 4 or 5 revolutions for each cylinder, or until the dial doesn't climb any higher. Once you do the compression check properly, having a low reading on two cylinder next to each other would usually be evidence of a bad head gasket.
Have you checked your coolant (look under the radiator cap when cold before starting the engine) for any oil? It would look like an oil slick floating on the top of the coolant in the upper radiator tank. Also have you noticed any coolant in the oil? You'd see it on the dip stick when you check the oil, It would show as brownish foamy bubbly crap on the stick. Make sure to run the engine a bit first because the coolant would be at the bottom of the oil pan after sitting awhile and might not show on the stick. The white smoke would support the 'coolant-in-the-oil' theory as well.
These indicators would point to a blown or misaligned head gasket or possibly a cracked or warped cylinder head or cracked block. Judging from what you said about the warped thermostat housing (this happens when one tries to tighten the bolts without seating the thermostat properly) and the apparent oil leak at the rear main seal, my guess would be an improperly installed head gasket due to a sloppy engine rebuild.
It's difficult to diagnose mechanical issues over the internet, but if you will do the aforementioned tests and report back, we will do our best to help.
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Thanks Boogyman, I have need working yesterday on the car and have found out that the fairly new looking Edelbrock intake bolts where almost hand tight only , retorqued them to spec.
The same applied to the valve covers , plus the fact that the gaskets between the heads and intake ( metallic ones ) where sticking out for about 1/8 " . Maybe that caused the oil leak behind the engine so I fixed that issue.
Heads seem to be torqued down fine .
I took the rocker arm assemblies off both sides to check for any problems but also to install # 80 Holley jets in ( ordered and waiting for them ) to make sure overflooding is not the cause for the smoke surges . Everything seems to be fine in there , no bent rods or other , everything looks brand spanking new in there .
Coolant is perfect , no oil mix in it , also drained the oil and not water / coolant present in it .
The smoke definitely comes from oil being burned because I could smell it .
I suppose it has something to do with valves or so , but have to wait for those carb jets before I reinstall the parts and can fire it up for a nother proper compression test .
Will be back with news shortly.
Again , I really appreciate your input buddy and hope to get the baby back on the road soon.
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Happy to help Ricardo. Perhaps you can return the favor one day since we both have '67 Galaxie 500s. I have two actually, both are fastback coupes. One is a running driving survivor with factory 289 2v, automatic, power steering and A/C. The other is a base model, but it's original 289 is beyond saving. You wouldn't happen to know where I can find a straight rust-free hood, would you?
Sounds like whoever 'rebuilt' your engine was less than competent by quite a stretch. You'd do well to check every nut & bolt before proceeding further with your diagnosis, you may have already corrected some issues just by tightening things up as you did.
One reason I suspected coolant in the oil was because you mentioned the smoke from your tailpipe was white. White smoke is generally caused be coolant getting into the cylinders. Oil would show as blue or gray smoke, and black smoke would indicate too much gas.
If it's white smoke and goes away after a few seconds, it's likely coolant leaking into the cylinders due to a small leak in the head gasket. If it doesn't go away and continues while driving it could be a badly blown head gasket, cracked/warped head, or cracked block.
If it's blue/gray smoke and goes away quickly, it's probably valve seals/guides leaking oil into the cylinders overnight. If it continues while driving it could be worn or broken rings, damaged cylinders, or a cracked block. If this is the case you should do both dry and wet compression tests.
If it's black smoke and goes away quickly, your carburetor may be leaking or flooding on start-up. If it continues while driving you have an overly rich fuel mixture which could be caused by the jets being to big or other issues in the carb.
So you see a lot can be told by what color smoke it's blowing and for how long. Also I would take the diagnosis process one step at a time and don't start throwing parts at it based on hunches or guesses. That way you can better pinpoint the problem and maybe save some money too.
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Since a lot of things regarding the intake are fishy, I would take that off, clean up everything, use new gaskets and install it properly with the correct torque value and tightening sequence. Make sure you get the right gaskets and they're oriented correctly.
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